Live to Comment Another Day

If you have been around the Fat-o-Sphere for long, you’ve probably heard the advice “Don’t read the comments”.  This is in reference to the fact that there are people who actually choose to spend their free time fat bashing on the internet, and that these people have a certain knack for making any article into a fat bashing fest.

I think that spreading a positive Size Acceptance message around the internet is a valuable exercise, but I’m not willing to give up my sanity to do it. So I ninja comment (get in, don’t read the comments, leave a comment, get out, never go back).  I started a Facebook group called Rolls not Trolls based on the suggestions of people around the blog.  The goal of the group is to share links in internet discussions that could use a little body positivity.  Today someone on the group asked for coaching on how to leave these comments, so here we are.

Here are my best tips for spreading some love around the internet with your sanity intact, of course you can take them or leave them and feel free to suggest your own!

You do not have to read the other comments.  I rarely read the other comments.  If the link is from RNT I typically already know what’s going on from the post.  Otherwise, as soon as I read one negative comment I stop.

I  don’t go in to change anyone’s mind.  I’m leaving my comment for the person who is reading the comment thread and might be helped in some way by reading something written from a Size Acceptance point of view.

I don’t reply specifically to anyone, even though it’s tempting.  The reason is that if I respond to someone specifically it’s more difficult for me to avoid going back.  I’m not looking for a conversation here – I’ve found it takes too much of my mental energy for not enough benefit and there are other things that I would prefer to use that energy for.

Remember who you are dealing with.  These are the kind of people who think that it’s a good use of their time to fat bash on the internet, and that should tell you everything that you need to know about them. They are entitled to their opinion but I don’t have to care what it is.

If you want to back up what you’re saying with fact, some of the people on RNT have started a very cool document with links to various studies, papers and facts.  Once you’re a member of the group you can click on 1 document at the top.  Any group member can add to the document as well so feel free to jump in.

Here are some sample comments that I often use:

In response to general fat bashing

It seems fairly obvious that you can’t hate someone healthy.  It’s a shame that people’s idea of blowing off steam is to hop on the internet and treat people disrespectfully because of the way they look – I would hope that we would be past that by now.

In response to a “fat people are so expensive/tax dollars” argument

This strikes me as a thinly veiled excuse to fat bash and here’s why:  our tax dollars pay for all kinds of things that we don’t like and that’s just the way it goes. That doesn’t make it someone else’s right to say what size I should be any more than it makes it my right to tell people that they aren’t allowed to drink because my tax dollars will pay for their cirrhosis (even though I don’t drink), or that they can’t drive anymore because they don’t use their turn signals and my tax dollars pay for the stoplights that are damaged in the crash (even though I use my turn signals), or that thin people who eat poorly and are sedentary have to change their diet and start working out because my tax dollars will pay for their future diseases (even though I eat a healthy diet and exercise).   The fact that, out of everything someone’s tax dollars pay for, they have singled out fat people seems to me to basically say “I like to fat bash, and this excuse is flimsy but seems plausible enough to let me do it.”

When every commenter thinks that they are a medical genius

There is a mountain of research (Gaesser, Bacon, Wei et.al., Blair etc.) that shows that healthy habits are our best chance for a healthy body.  The use of weight as a proxy for health hurts everyone, since it misleads fat people into thinking that healthy habits don’t make us healthier unless they also make us thinner, and gives thin people the dangerous misconception that their weight makes them healthy regardless of their habits.  Health is multi-dimensional and not entirely within our control but the best thing that we can do for our health is practice healthy habits and let our body size take care of itself, and not be stigmatized by the people around us.

When people are commenting on a article about someone who challenges their stereotypes:

It’s always interesting to watch people desperately try to hold onto their prejudices, even in the face of direct evidence to the contrary. Thank you [person from the article] for giving people the opportunity to rethink their stereotypes and bigotry.  You are strong and beautiful and appreciated!

Of course you are under no obligation to join the fray, I didn’t for a long time and some days I just don’t feel like it and that’s totally fine. If you feel like doing some activism this is just one option!

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12 thoughts on “Live to Comment Another Day

  1. I’m waiting for the time when we just converse with each other and don’t really bother to allow haters to dictate the conversation at all.

  2. This helps a lot. I think I may just use your comments as ideas to create some generic comments to post for the various issues that come up over and over. Then I don’t have to spend too much time thinking about it. 🙂

  3. I don’t read comments on *most* things on the internet – I’ve found that a surprising number of people who comment on public posts seem to be motivated mostly by a need to put others down. (Blogs are frequently, not always, an exception – but news articles? Whew!)

    I’m sorry about this, because it limits reasonable discussion… which was *supposed* to be the great advantage of being able to comment on news stories and the like.

  4. i have said it before and i will say it again…the big 3 media, i know FOR A FACT was hiring people to get online and actively negate the #OccupyWallStreet movement. Also after being involved with 2 different fat acceptance blogs (currently at http://fiercefatties.com/) its the same like 20 IP addresses. over and over again. how hard would it be for say allergan to hire say 20 people at 10 bucks an hour to get online and troll for a living….or maybe i want individual people to just be nicer than they are and blame everything evil an big pharma..i dunno but i am really suspicious of trolls. its just the same people, those who usually have an agenda of some sort…aka selling their diet shit.

  5. THANK YOU FOR THIS TODAY RAGEN!

    I was feeling a little down. Yesterday I made the mistake I guess of going to the EW article about how Adele swept the Grammys. Mostly commentors (is that a word?) were being friendly and saying good for her or respectfully saying that they were happy for her but just didn’t like her music.

    But of course there were the few who felt the need to bash her and her weight (with the oh so funny- she needs to put down the cheeseburger/donuts/etc. or the especially clever- omg she looks like she ate Katy Perry!!1!Hahah11!!!) Some people said she doesn’t deserve to have eight Grammys (total) until she loses weight. Now, there are there people who can’t carry a tune with these awards and that’s okay – but your weight should discount you?

    And it just got me down. Why do you need to try and ruin someone’s moment, especially someone who deserves it so much and is so sweet! Plus she is really pretty mainstream attractive as far as her facial features go.

    To be fair, every single female artist had a comment bashing them on the way they look (she has no breasts, she looks like a rat, or she’s dressed like a whore). None of the guys had anything but positives. Hmmm….

    1. According to dictionary.com commenter is the proper word for someone who makes comments. And apparently it’s different from commentator, who is someone who is either a person who writes commentaries or who discusses news, events, sports or the like on radio or television.

      Isn’t English *fun*?

  6. I encountered a problem today. It seems that when you (I mean Ragen you) comment on a fat bashing photo, it puts the photo on my feed because I’ve subscribed to your status updates on Facebook. That’s of course Facebook’s fault and not yours, but it was unexpected and kinda triggering as such.

    1. @PM Beep –

      If you go to Ragen’s Facebook Page and hover your mouse over the box that says “subscribe” a drop down will appear that allows you to check what type of facebook updates you want to recieve from Ragen. You can unclick the “photo” option and still receive all the other glorious fat positive messages from Ragen without the fat bashing photo surprise 🙂

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